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Chinese Youth Party (Taiwan)

中國青年黨 - Zhongguo Qingniandang

image by Tomislav Todorović and Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 20 April 2014

Introduction
Flag

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Introduction

The Chinese Youth Party, also known as the Young China Party, was founded in 1923 by Chinese students in Paris. Originally a "Third Way" party, which was trying to offer the alternative to both Kuomintang and the Communists, it eventually sided with the Kuomintang and moved to Taiwan in 1949, where it was one of three legal parties until 1987, with a limited impact on the national politics during that period. After new parties had begun to appear since 1987, it lost most of its influence, failing to gain elected representation, but still exists and maintains a website (in blog form).
Tomislav Todorović, 14 August 2009

Party name in Chinese is 中國青年黨 (Pinyin: Zhongguo Qingnian Dang).
Tomislav Todorović, 19 April 2014

The party name in Chinese was given as Zhongguo Qingnian Dang, but a better transliteration would be Zhongguo Qingniandang. That is, when using Pinyin; Wade-Giles trasnsiteration is Chung-kuo Ch'ing-nien-tang.
Tomislav Todorović, 28 April 2014

Flag

The party flag has yellow field, with blue, white and red horizontal stripes in centre. An article at the party website shows an incomplete photo of a document, where the flag can be seen at the top, making part of the frame for the text in a way which looks like the official format of party documents. The blue, white and red stripes occupy one-seventh of the width each, while yellow areas are two-sevenths wide. The colour shades seem to be those of the national flag at the time of party founding (see page and image).
It shall be noted that the flag images shown elsewhere at the party site show visibly wider central stripes and lighter shades of red and blue, but the photo is certainly more authentic, so it was used as the basis for the flag image. The colour shades migh actually be slightly different (red and blue like those of the current national flag), but those as described above seem to be the most logical choice, considering the party founding date and the complete colour set in use.
The Introduction is based on the Wikipedia article about the Chinese Youth Party.
Tomislav Todorović, 14 August 2009

The photos showing the flag, which can be found here, here and here show that, compared with the current national flag, the shade of red is about the same and blue is visibly lighter.
Tomislav Todorović, 19 April 2014

The photographs show different shades (as photographs tend to do), and the one where two flags are visible actually shows a painting of two flags, not the real thing.
Basically, we don't know the exact shades, and hunting for them in photographs will not solve that. When we have no good reason to use specific shades, we use a set of standard colours, so we don't inadvertently introduce seemingly precise colour-difference that we don't really know about.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 20 April 2014

I did have some initial doubts about the recoloring, the image of party flag at Wikipedia has employed lighter shades from the start, and it is not my creation at all. So, the need for use of lighter shades is not only my opinion. Anyway, red should have been made the same as used in the current national flag image, and blue should have also been made lighter in that case. Of course, it would be the best if we could get the official definition of colors, if it exists.
That is right - and the lighting conditions were not very good, too. However, the cited sources are all that is currently left of once more numerable photos of this flag.
While we clearly agree on the shade of red, I am afraid that standard FOTW color B is not the best choice here - the real color is lighter, and more inclines towards cyan when compared to a color wheel. Also, the image of party flag at Wikipedia has employed the color shades close to those which I used, and it is not my creation at all. However, the author did not use Web-safe colors, which I decided not to follow, since we don't know the official definition of colors, or if it there is any. Moreover, the colors of Wikipedia image generally look less saturated to me than they should be according to the photos. This is why I decided not to use the colors from standard 16- or 32-colors set, opting for the next recommendation from this page.
Not long ago, there were more photos of this flag available on the Web, but they were removed when the sites containing them were closed down. Too bad I was working on other flags' images then - had I used all of the then sources, maybe the outcome and the subsequent discussion would have been different. But "there is no use in crying after the spilled milk".
Tomislav Todorović, 20 April 2014

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